Settled Law Revisited……

Update 5/17 @ 6:26 PM:

Elizabeth Warren has weighed in. She argues that Congress should act aggressively to enact legislation so in the event Roe-v-Wade is eventually overturned by the SCOTUS a womens rights to reproductive health would remain protected. Federal law  supersedes state law.

Her main arguments are highlighted below.  They make perfect sense and 71% of Americans, inclding 52% of republicans would agree. They do not Roe-v-Wade overtured.

  • Create federal, statutory rights that parallel the constitutional right in Roe v. Wade. The extremists behind proposals like the Alabama law don’t reflect public opinion in America. Polling data shows that 71% of Americans oppose overturning Roe — including 52% of Republicans. Congress should do its job and protect their constituents from these efforts by establishing affirmative, statutory rights that parallel Roe vs. Wade. These rights would have at least two key components. First, they must prohibit states from interfering in the ability of a health care provider to provide medical care, including abortion services. Second, they must prohibit states from interfering in the ability of a patient to access medical care, including abortion services, from a provider that offers them.
  • Pass federal laws to preempt state efforts that functionally limit access to reproductive health care. States have passed countless Targeted Regulations on Abortion Providers (TRAP) laws, which are designed to functionally limit and eliminate women’s access to abortion care while not technically contravening Roe. Geographical, physical, and procedural restrictions and requirements. Restrictions on medication abortion. These kinds of restrictions are medically-unnecessary and exist for only one purpose: to functionally eliminate the ability of women to access abortion services. A bill already proposed in Congress, The Women’s Health Protection Act, would provide the mechanism to block these kinds of schemes concocted to deny women access to care. Congress should pass it.
  • Guarantee reproductive health coverage as part of all health coverage. All women — no matter where they live, where they’re from, how much money they make, or the color of their skin — are entitled to access the high-quality, evidence-based reproductive health care that is envisioned by Roe. Making that a reality starts with repealing the Hyde Amendment, which blocks abortion coverage for women under federally funded health care programs like Medicaid, the VA, and the Indian Health Service. Congress should also expand culturally- and linguistically-appropriate services and information and include immigrant women in conversations about coverage and access. Congress must also pass the EACH Woman Act, which would also prohibit abortion restrictions on private insurance. And we should ensure that all future health coverage — including Medicare for All — includes contraception and abortion coverage.
  • Ensure equal access and reproductive justice. Securing a federal right to Roe and ensuring that reproductive health care is available to every woman in America is just the beginning. We must undo the current Administration’s efforts to undermine women’s access to reproductive health care — including ending Trump’s gag rule and fully support Title X family planning funding. We must crack down on violence at abortion clinics and ensure that women are not discriminated against at work or anywhere else for the choices they made about their bodies.
  • Guarantee reproductive health coverage as part of all health coverage. All women — no matter where they live, where they’re from, how much money they make, or the color of their skin — are entitled to access the high-quality, evidence-based reproductive health care that is envisioned by Roe. Making that a reality starts with repealing the Hyde Amendment, which blocks abortion coverage for women under federally funded health care programs like Medicaid, the VA, and the Indian Health Service. Congress should also expand culturally- and linguistically-appropriate services and information and include immigrant women in conversations about coverage and access. Congress must also pass the EACH Woman Act, which would also prohibit abortion restrictions on private insurance. And we should ensure that all future health coverage — including Medicare for All — includes contraception and abortion coverage.
  • Ensure equal access and reproductive justice. Securing a federal right to Roe and ensuring that reproductive health care is available to every woman in America is just the beginning. We must undo the current Administration’s efforts to undermine women’s access to reproductive health care — including ending Trump’s gag rule and fully support Title X family planning funding. We must crack down on violence at abortion clinics and ensure that women are not discriminated against at work or anywhere else for the choices they made about their bodies.

Full Article Under the Fold.

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So, in 1973 Roe -v- Wade became the law of the land giving women the right to control their own bodies. Granting women the right to access safe and legal abortion was arguably the ethical and moral thing to do. Now, in 2019 the State of Alabama has decided it knows better and passed a ridiculously stupid anti abortion law. A law that would make ALL abortion illegal, with the sole exception of when giving birth would endanger the life of the women.

Of course not one single woman voted for the anti abortion legislation. Not that there are many women in the Alabama legislature. But one thing is for certain, Alabama sure has a gaggle of conservative evangelical men who think they know by far better what is right for women and society than the Majority of the rest of the country. In fairness to Alabama there are other states trundling down the same slope.

As I read through the many media reports after the law passed two things in the law stood out as the most glaring examples of outright stupidity I’ve seen of late. The law makes no exception for rape or incest. So, if a women is forcibly raped and the rape results in a pregnancy the women would be forced by the state to carry the monsters child to term. Same for a women impregnated by a male relative. For me this raises a few questions.

Since the state of Alabama wishes to force a women to carry a rapist’s child against her will, just as she was forced by the rapist to have sex, it only seems right and proper that the state assume responsibility for her care during the pregnancy as well as carrying the burden of delivery costs. It also would be right and proper for the state to pick up all costs for child care until suitable adoptive parents are found. Incest is not necessarily an act of forced sex, but sometimes it is. Which of course puts it on the same level as rape.

It is considered safe for 1’st cousins and outward to give birth to a child as the likelihood of genetic defects is no greater than that of the general population. Unless the families are known to be full of harmful recessives (recessive genes). However, closer relatives engaging in a incestuous relationship where a history of recessive genes are evident in both can and often does lead to serious genetic defects in the child. Aborting a fetus in this case is, simply put, the humane decision. Both for the fetus and for the parents.

Of course the Alabama law is headed for the Supreme Court. Which is precisely the real goal of the Alabama law. It is the test case always dreamt of by male right-wing conservative religious evangelicals to overturn Roe-v-Wade. The hopes of the anti choice movement is to return the USA to the dark ages and back alley abortions. Which if this horrid law is upheld is exactly what will happen.

Those are my heartfelt views. I would love to hear yours.

Related article I came across that you may very well find interesting. It certainly offer fodder for rational discussion if one chooses.

Broader Implications of ‘My Body, My Choice’

Abortion Ban in Alabama Designed ‘To Directly Challenge Roe v. Wade’

 

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Les Carpenter

Certified Personal Trainer (CPT) and Corrective Exercise Specialist working with those over 50 years of age. Currently work at Prime Fitness located in The Enfield Senior Center, Enfield CT. Semi retired and enjoying life in the semi fast lane with my lovely bride and super grandchildren!

7 thoughts on “Settled Law Revisited……”

  1. A powder keg issue Les. Here’s what I find interesting. The Pro Life position has claimed for years that life begins at conception. Fine. For the purposes of discussion, let’s accept that.

    If that’s true and accurate, of course ppl should also oppose abortion in the case of rape and incest. If they are for protecting life, why split hairs? All life should be protected. But yesterday the Pro Life Minority leader of the US House said he could not support the bill because it did not provide a rape and incest exception.

    But why should it?

    If you believe it is life from conception, then any termination of the pregnancy, or abortion, has to be seen as murder.

    But let’s go further into the Alabama bill. It essentially makes it felony murder for a doctor in the state to perform an abortion, in Pro Life language, killing an innocent baby, punishable by up to 99 years in prison.

    Shouldn’t the woman also be charged? Under this law, why isn’t the woman guilty of aiding and abetting? How about everyone else in the medical office? Shouldn’t they also be guilty?

    This law, regardless of your views, is a mess.

    If the Pro Life ppl really want to lower abortions in the US, they should champion proven methods that have shown to lower unwanted pregnancies. And those methods are better access to birth control and regular medical access as granted by the ACA, known better as Obamacare.

    I talked to pastors and leaders here in Nevada after our GOP Governor expanded health care access in our state. Gov Sanchez came to the state legislature and trumpeted a 20% drop in teen pregnancies and abortions. In his state of the state address he said the reason was because of Obamacare. The pastors with whom I spoke liked the results, but not the method.

    In other words, they were glad we lowered teen pregnancies and abortions, but didn’t like having it tied to Obamacare and access to birth control. Because that meant young people were still having casual, pre marital sex.

    So what was their real concern? Fewer abortions? Or how we lowered the numbers?

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    1. The only answer I can think of that explains their position is they want their cake and eat it as well. Not possible as everyone knows. But sometimes reason is clouded by, a veil?

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  2. Les… I can’t see how any Pro Life person can get to accepting Roe. They sincerely believe they are protecting the lives of unborn innocent children.
    Given what they believe, any failure on their part is an affront to God.
    How can they accept a compromise they see as murcer?

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    1. I understand that to be consistent, and yes, non hypocritical, a true devout believer will not accept that a women has a right to control her own own body. I guess the free will concept, as expessed in the bible, only apples when the individual uses their free will to act exactly as the the devouts would have them excercise free will. In short they can’t to be true to ther principles and motral code. If that means denying others to right to exercise theoir gfree will with respect to abprtion so be t I guess.

      Her come da Dark Ages AGAIN.

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  3. Many of the states that are passing these extreme bans on abortion also do not support birth control. They also do not support the “morning after” pill that releases the lining of the uterus after possible implantation because there are those who also believe that is murder. A zygote that has 46 chomosomes is not a human being. It is a potential one, as an apple seed is a potential apple, but it is not an apple. Some religions believe that the 46 chomosone zygote has a soul, but that’s not science, it is a religious belief.
    Readily available birth control and sex education can prevent many unwanted pregnancies, but when people are opposed to birth control, how do we solve this problem?
    There’s a video on facebook showing a GOP representative from the south (I can’t remember if he’s a state or federal rep) who tells a heartbreaking story about his niece who was carrying a very much wanted seconcd baby and found out that the fetus had a serious and untreatable birth defect. It had no bladder and other internal organs and at birth would suffer in pain and then die. There was no way to save it. The mother was forced to carry that fetus to completion only to know it will die a nasty death. The representative was outraged that any state would force this on women, fetuses, and their families to endure such unnecessary agony. And he’s pro-life!
    Personally, I’ve witnessed two horrendous tragedies involving deformed fetuses that were born with no hope of surviving and witnessing the agony of the mother and her family going through this ordeal. That’s why I say leave the state out of these decisions and allow ethical medical experts to determine how to handle them in the most humane, ethical way.
    I said I personally witnessed two of these sorts of supposedly “rare” instances. How many of them are repeated in a country that has the 3rd highest population on the planet? Thousands, I’m guessing.
    Who knows what medical science will discover in the future to possibly make these difficult decisions unnecessary? Until then, keep the state out of a woman’s reproductive decisions.

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    1. Many of the states that are passing these extreme bans on abortion also do not support birth control. They also do not support the “morning after” pill that releases the lining of the uterus after possible implantation because there are those who also believe that is murder. A zygote that has 46 chomosomes is not a human being. It is a potential one, as an apple seed is a potential apple, but it is not an apple. Some religions believe that the 46 chomosone zygote has a soul, but that’s not science, it is a religious belief. Readily available birth control and sex education can prevent many unwanted pregnancies, but when people are opposed to birth control, how do we solve this problem?

      Bingo Shaw! If conservatives and republicans would actively support agressive use of effective sex education and birth control, and use of the morning after pill, the numbers of abortion (which I do have problems with beyond the 1st trimester unless for medical reasons) would be significanly reduced. But the right is in a headlog rush to turn back the hanmds of time and reasoned progress to a MUCH DARKER period in time.

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  4. Guys… many want to use the fear of pregnancy to control behavior. Instead of trying to make their argument, they prefer a method that brings lifelong consequences.

    Effective birth control is proven to work at decreasing teen and unwanted pregnancies. The cost to us as a society for providing this is a fraction of the health care costs from unwanted pregnancies.

    But we’d have to let folks have sex. A moral issue for many, or at least some.

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